"But we have not done the same for young men. We're still expecting them to fit into this incredibly narrow stereotype, and I think that has led a lot of young men to have really profound anxiety about who they're supposed to be and how they're supposed to interact with women, particularly post #MeToo,"
100% FALSE NARRATIVE:
1.- The left has been trying to feminise men for decades and that has been TERRIBLE for men.
Now men:
a) Has less education.
b) Earn less than women.
c) Has less sex...
than the toxic males 20 or 30 years ago. Masculine men were doing 100x of time better than the feminise 2025 men!
2.- We want to be toxic masculine. Men want to be MEN. That's the failure. We dont want to sue mens' bags or high hills. This is NOT for men (other than gay men).
3.- Finally, the thing that was TOXIC for men have been promoted for women. Now women can aspire to be CEO (it seems that men cannot - its toxic), compete in sport (toxic for men), earn more (toxic again) be the breadwinner (toxic if this is male), be the dominant in sex...
And you tried to feminise men: that what was BAD for women seems to be good for men. Now men seems not to be the CEO, but the one taking care of the kids?? Why was that bad for women and now is good for men?
We are angry because you have NOT destroyed masculinity, you have not destroyed power, you have just changed it to the hands of women!! And you did it with gender quotas, affirmative action, discrimination agains ment, the worst campaing in all history including KILLING ALL MEN!! WHERE ON EARTH DO YOU EXPECT MEN VOTING FOR DEMOCRATS??
You have not only changed masculinity from men to women, but destroying feminity. And further to all of the above, this is the most isolated and longliness society EVER. WITH THE WORST FERTILITY CRISES EVER.
The left is doom with men. EVER!
Trump is so irritant to the left becuase it is the evidence of the failure of all the above. The rejection by men of their feminisation and the mascuilinsation of women by discrimination of men.
While women have slightly more sex than men, that mainly stems from them having a shit ton of sex from long-term relationships. Women are twice as likely to have had one sexual partner in the past year, while men are twice as likely to have had multiple. So if you wanna get laid a shit ton, just get in a long-term relationship. It's not that complicated.
Not all men want to be put into a box, dawg. Personally, I do a lot of masculine things. I box, watch sports, and code, but I still appreciate the freedom to do whatever I want. My grandpa wasn't allowed to learn piano as a kid cause his mom thought it would turn him gay, and my old coworker's ex-wife used to call him the f-word for listening to David Bowie. And if sowing men's bags is your thing, I don't think people should shame you just because it doesn't fit our false perception of what masculinity used to be, which conveniently leaves out things we respect now, like learning piano and David Bowie.
Over two-thirds of CEOs are men. They still have way more power, yet you act like the role has been completely taken over by women already. I think CEOs in general have more power than they should, but I just don't get why you think men having power over women is synonymous with masculinity. Having power over black people used to be essential to the white identity, and whites made similar notions during the Civil Rights Act that black people were getting more power than white people from a bill that just gave equal rights. Now, nobody gives a fuck. So I don't see how this is much different.
1. Today, Young women make more money than young men in several countries including Spain, France and the UK.
If women continue to have a Payment gender gap is because they care more of kids. So, a personal desition, but men have worse jobs today.
2. Men are more CEOs, but women are 75% of HR Directors, which is more relevant as they determine who is hired. So men are currently facing discrimination from females HR Directors.
Not all men want to be put in a box, but all men want feminist stop critisizing the box. The problem is now we critize the men that are in the box, so the discrimination has reversed. You will not critize a gay polítician, but you critize Trump for having toxic masculinity. Yo see? Feminism has reversed discrimination
And actually, men in the box perform better in life than feminized men. So, we need to accept and encourage the box.
What the hell wha hapenned with your grandpa?? The majority of piano players are male (75%). And music was mostly played by males 100 years ago.
Where on my comment have you see that I said that men have to have power over women?
Critising the current socio econonic and polítical situation of men is geting power over women? If you answer is yes, you also entail that feminism is women taking powe over men.
Which is exactly what is happening right now in all Western society
Being a stay-at-home parent is still a job, just one that doesn't pay. It doesn't change the fact that men make more on average for their work. If you're proposing to give them paychecks for their work to address the pay gap, I would say that's a great idea.
I think our disagreement is that I see power in money, while you see it in the likelihood of getting hired. It sucks that human resource jobs are majority women, which leads to women being more likely to get hired, but isn't the solution to convince men to pursue feminine degrees in human resources and psychology?
I won't criticize politicians for being gay cause they're not harming anyone, but when someone like Andrew Cuomo uses his power to sexually harass women, I'll criticize it. Idk how you define toxic masculinity, but to me, it's when guys associate manliness with having dominance over others, bottling up emotions, or viewing empathy as a weakness.
In what way do men in that box perform "better?" Like, are happier? Live a more fulfilling life?
It's okay to criticize the situation men are in, but if your takeaway from all this is that women have too much power in society and we need to bring back toxic masculinity, a lot of people are going to assume that you think men should have power over women since that's what toxic masculinity basically is.
1. A job is something you do in favour of someone who pays for that. If mothers are willing to receive a paycheck, their should discuss the amount with their parents, not with the taxpayers. I dont have to pay for caring the kids of other people: I pay my wife to do so for my kids, but not other women for their kids. So, this is an internal matter for discussion inside the parents. Btw, nuclear family was basically that: men transferred 50% of the ownership to their wifes by law.
2.1. Who is advocating for men persuing those carreers? Because all the programmes are for women in STEM, not men in HEAL. Even in Iceland where 77% of graduates are females, the only programmes are for females, not males. In the US, up to recently, the affirmative action was for females never for males. The same in Spain.
2.2. I know men in HR field. They never get hired. Si, its not men not persuing those possitions: its women blocking them. There are specific internal policies to do so in several companies I know. Women discriminate men in feminized carreers more than men discriminate women in masculinised carreers: and there are already several studies showing that.
3..So Trump persuing powe is toxic masculinity because he want power over others, but the All Female Iceland Government or Kemala winning and having the same power is equality because of what...? Women persuing power is equally dangerous, but never critisized. Only when men look for that we critize It. Again: this is the pattern of a Matriarchy.
4. Empathy as a weekness? Who the hell said that? Have you ever read books like the original Boys Scouts Book of 1911?? Thats whats is masculinity, bro!!! The pure definición or masculinity! It has 2 pages devoted to respect to women, and several to being gentle to all, not smoking, care yourself, care the community... Of course, feminist dismanteled Boys Scouts (ah... but not Girls Scouts).
5. Even Equismundos report (one of the lead feminist global groups) acknowledes that masculine men (in the box) have more purpose in life.
Masculine men reach higher positions of power.
Gay men have more ETS (much more!).
Married family men (masculinity is very link to being a father) works more, have less suicide rates...
The more Patriarchal a country is, men have less suicide rates and are more engagement with society.
Masculine men in 1970 were doing 1000s of times better than feminized men in 2025.
Sorry mate: the feminisation of men and society has failed for men.
Of course, the reserve is for masculinised women: because masculinity is good! But only when is linked to women. Women looking to become a CEO? Good! Men? Bad!
6. Have I said that the solution is bringing back whatever you call toxic masculinity?
Well, the solution is indeed stop helping women from the Government (I dont allow my tax dollars to go to that).
Stop discrimination against men would also help: thanks for Trump, DEI IS death.
And yes, assume that are males (the majority of them) that are, and we will be, masculine and dominants. And that is fantastic, althougth you dont believed It.
Of course, if any of such dominance constitute a criminal offence, then, apply the law. But this is not masculinity (masculine was the sherrif, the cop, not the killer). It was the Guillette 1992 ad.
Other than that, if a masculine man is and harms nobody, then, Great! He will be excellent worker, a brillisnt leader, great father and a strong spouse. The best a man can be.
So, stop trying to feminise men: It IS worst for them and for society, and bring back masculinity.
Lots of people work for their partners for no paycheck. My mom did the accounting for my dad’s business to alleviate costs. That’s still a job, and a stay at home mom is similarly alleviating the cost of paying someone to take care of the kids.
Mothers should discuss the amount with… their parents?? You and your wife’s parents must be loaded man. But this is still you choosing to pay your hypothetical wife, so if you really wanted, you could just not bother and treat her like shit. And she’d have a harder time leaving cause she has less work experience outside of being a stay at home mom. You’re relying on people CHOOSING to be nice to each other to balance power. And when nuclear families were a thing, women couldn’t open bank accounts and you couldn’t get charged with rape if it’s your wife. I’m sure women loved that period of time.
Why don’t YOU start the program to get more men in HR!? Do you know how much more you can get done doing something real than arguing with someone on Substack? Many of these feminist movements started with one person and now we have women in STEM programs, but instead you wanna do nothing and whine about how no one’s addressing the issues that you brought up in the first place.
To the trump thing, no, I don’t think trump should be president because he wants power over others. I’m not gonna claim Harris has no ulterior motives, but this is trump we’re talking about. His whole platform is based on using power to hurt others internationally, send migrant workers to death camps in El Salvador, and tear down rural hospitals to siphon money into the pockets of his Epstein friends. Many people voted for him cause they need a strong daddy figure to dick them down. Personally, I think it’s gay that America needs men so badly, and I don’t think it’s wrong to question why there are so many more men than women in congress.
Yes, empathy as a weakness. That’s part of traditional masculinity or whatever. In what way is trump remotely empathetic? Also, Boy Scout troop leaders molested kids, which is not empathetic.
It’s interesting you bring up 1970 cause that’s when wealth disparity was at its lowest, there were more social programs, and living was more affordable. It’s not the masculinity that made life better, it was just the better living. Even looking at the present, the internet, depression, more stressors, etc., there are so many variables, it’s not just black and white.
And once again, I’m saying that people are happier when they’re free to choose their path. You want to shove those people in a way of life because you think it’ll make them happier.
If we have helped women in the name of equality with affirmative action, gender quotas and so on, are now we suggesting that we did all that not in the name of equality but just to change power of hands? So feminist has been always a lie and it was not about balancing men and women, but about puting women in power...
We, as men, know already that. And that's the reason why we vote for Trump and far right to subyugate women again. Your question confim that we need to do that. Good luck!
I never said anything was wrong with men having the power. I'm not so easily shaken by the prospect of losing it. It's unfortunate you are so defensive.
Read my post, and you will see that my post is not about women in power, but feminism, which is different.
Woming farily reaching the power? 100%. Feminism discriminating men so women reach the power? 0% Against that, the only possible reaction is the most aggresive policy. Including Trump of the very far right.
"Now women can aspire to be CEO (it seems that men cannot — it's toxic), compete in sport (toxic for men), earn more (toxic again), be the breadwinner (toxic if this is male), be dominant in sex..."
The implication is that there’s something wrong with women being dominant in these arenas. I’m asking why you feel that way. Why does that bother you?
You also said:
"We are angry because you have NOT destroyed masculinity, you have not destroyed power, you have just changed it to the hands of women!!"
The implication here is that there’s something wrong with power shifting from men to women. Again, I’m asking: why do you think that’s a bad thing?
1. I dont bother about women looking for being a CEO. I bother because now about looking for being a CEO is toxic masculinity! Sic! And, furthermore, because the Government has discriminated men (gender quotas) to allow women becoming a CEO.
2. There is of course something wrong with the Government discrimination men in the name of "equality" just to finally end in a inequality situation. Women ha ing power is not a problem: women having power because of the Government having disvriminsted men, including DEI, is.
"But we have not done the same for young men. We're still expecting them to fit into this incredibly narrow stereotype, and I think that has led a lot of young men to have really profound anxiety about who they're supposed to be and how they're supposed to interact with women, particularly post #MeToo,"
100% FALSE NARRATIVE:
1.- The left has been trying to feminise men for decades and that has been TERRIBLE for men.
Now men:
a) Has less education.
b) Earn less than women.
c) Has less sex...
than the toxic males 20 or 30 years ago. Masculine men were doing 100x of time better than the feminise 2025 men!
2.- We want to be toxic masculine. Men want to be MEN. That's the failure. We dont want to sue mens' bags or high hills. This is NOT for men (other than gay men).
3.- Finally, the thing that was TOXIC for men have been promoted for women. Now women can aspire to be CEO (it seems that men cannot - its toxic), compete in sport (toxic for men), earn more (toxic again) be the breadwinner (toxic if this is male), be the dominant in sex...
And you tried to feminise men: that what was BAD for women seems to be good for men. Now men seems not to be the CEO, but the one taking care of the kids?? Why was that bad for women and now is good for men?
We are angry because you have NOT destroyed masculinity, you have not destroyed power, you have just changed it to the hands of women!! And you did it with gender quotas, affirmative action, discrimination agains ment, the worst campaing in all history including KILLING ALL MEN!! WHERE ON EARTH DO YOU EXPECT MEN VOTING FOR DEMOCRATS??
You have not only changed masculinity from men to women, but destroying feminity. And further to all of the above, this is the most isolated and longliness society EVER. WITH THE WORST FERTILITY CRISES EVER.
The left is doom with men. EVER!
Trump is so irritant to the left becuase it is the evidence of the failure of all the above. The rejection by men of their feminisation and the mascuilinsation of women by discrimination of men.
PERIOD.
Aight dawg, let's break this down:
Today, the average woman only makes 85 cents for every dollar the average man makes (https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/03/04/gender-pay-gap-in-us-has-narrowed-slightly-over-2-decades/)
While women have slightly more sex than men, that mainly stems from them having a shit ton of sex from long-term relationships. Women are twice as likely to have had one sexual partner in the past year, while men are twice as likely to have had multiple. So if you wanna get laid a shit ton, just get in a long-term relationship. It's not that complicated.
(Figures 1 and 2 https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7293001/)
Not all men want to be put into a box, dawg. Personally, I do a lot of masculine things. I box, watch sports, and code, but I still appreciate the freedom to do whatever I want. My grandpa wasn't allowed to learn piano as a kid cause his mom thought it would turn him gay, and my old coworker's ex-wife used to call him the f-word for listening to David Bowie. And if sowing men's bags is your thing, I don't think people should shame you just because it doesn't fit our false perception of what masculinity used to be, which conveniently leaves out things we respect now, like learning piano and David Bowie.
Over two-thirds of CEOs are men. They still have way more power, yet you act like the role has been completely taken over by women already. I think CEOs in general have more power than they should, but I just don't get why you think men having power over women is synonymous with masculinity. Having power over black people used to be essential to the white identity, and whites made similar notions during the Civil Rights Act that black people were getting more power than white people from a bill that just gave equal rights. Now, nobody gives a fuck. So I don't see how this is much different.
(https://www.zippia.com/chief-executive-officer-jobs/demographics/)
Aight dawg, let's break this down:
1. Today, Young women make more money than young men in several countries including Spain, France and the UK.
If women continue to have a Payment gender gap is because they care more of kids. So, a personal desition, but men have worse jobs today.
2. Men are more CEOs, but women are 75% of HR Directors, which is more relevant as they determine who is hired. So men are currently facing discrimination from females HR Directors.
Not all men want to be put in a box, but all men want feminist stop critisizing the box. The problem is now we critize the men that are in the box, so the discrimination has reversed. You will not critize a gay polítician, but you critize Trump for having toxic masculinity. Yo see? Feminism has reversed discrimination
And actually, men in the box perform better in life than feminized men. So, we need to accept and encourage the box.
What the hell wha hapenned with your grandpa?? The majority of piano players are male (75%). And music was mostly played by males 100 years ago.
(Continious)
Where on my comment have you see that I said that men have to have power over women?
Critising the current socio econonic and polítical situation of men is geting power over women? If you answer is yes, you also entail that feminism is women taking powe over men.
Which is exactly what is happening right now in all Western society
And this is happening with the help of Olygarchy.
Being a stay-at-home parent is still a job, just one that doesn't pay. It doesn't change the fact that men make more on average for their work. If you're proposing to give them paychecks for their work to address the pay gap, I would say that's a great idea.
I think our disagreement is that I see power in money, while you see it in the likelihood of getting hired. It sucks that human resource jobs are majority women, which leads to women being more likely to get hired, but isn't the solution to convince men to pursue feminine degrees in human resources and psychology?
I won't criticize politicians for being gay cause they're not harming anyone, but when someone like Andrew Cuomo uses his power to sexually harass women, I'll criticize it. Idk how you define toxic masculinity, but to me, it's when guys associate manliness with having dominance over others, bottling up emotions, or viewing empathy as a weakness.
In what way do men in that box perform "better?" Like, are happier? Live a more fulfilling life?
It's okay to criticize the situation men are in, but if your takeaway from all this is that women have too much power in society and we need to bring back toxic masculinity, a lot of people are going to assume that you think men should have power over women since that's what toxic masculinity basically is.
1. A job is something you do in favour of someone who pays for that. If mothers are willing to receive a paycheck, their should discuss the amount with their parents, not with the taxpayers. I dont have to pay for caring the kids of other people: I pay my wife to do so for my kids, but not other women for their kids. So, this is an internal matter for discussion inside the parents. Btw, nuclear family was basically that: men transferred 50% of the ownership to their wifes by law.
2.1. Who is advocating for men persuing those carreers? Because all the programmes are for women in STEM, not men in HEAL. Even in Iceland where 77% of graduates are females, the only programmes are for females, not males. In the US, up to recently, the affirmative action was for females never for males. The same in Spain.
2.2. I know men in HR field. They never get hired. Si, its not men not persuing those possitions: its women blocking them. There are specific internal policies to do so in several companies I know. Women discriminate men in feminized carreers more than men discriminate women in masculinised carreers: and there are already several studies showing that.
3..So Trump persuing powe is toxic masculinity because he want power over others, but the All Female Iceland Government or Kemala winning and having the same power is equality because of what...? Women persuing power is equally dangerous, but never critisized. Only when men look for that we critize It. Again: this is the pattern of a Matriarchy.
4. Empathy as a weekness? Who the hell said that? Have you ever read books like the original Boys Scouts Book of 1911?? Thats whats is masculinity, bro!!! The pure definición or masculinity! It has 2 pages devoted to respect to women, and several to being gentle to all, not smoking, care yourself, care the community... Of course, feminist dismanteled Boys Scouts (ah... but not Girls Scouts).
5. Even Equismundos report (one of the lead feminist global groups) acknowledes that masculine men (in the box) have more purpose in life.
Masculine men reach higher positions of power.
Gay men have more ETS (much more!).
Married family men (masculinity is very link to being a father) works more, have less suicide rates...
The more Patriarchal a country is, men have less suicide rates and are more engagement with society.
Masculine men in 1970 were doing 1000s of times better than feminized men in 2025.
Sorry mate: the feminisation of men and society has failed for men.
Of course, the reserve is for masculinised women: because masculinity is good! But only when is linked to women. Women looking to become a CEO? Good! Men? Bad!
6. Have I said that the solution is bringing back whatever you call toxic masculinity?
Well, the solution is indeed stop helping women from the Government (I dont allow my tax dollars to go to that).
Stop discrimination against men would also help: thanks for Trump, DEI IS death.
And yes, assume that are males (the majority of them) that are, and we will be, masculine and dominants. And that is fantastic, althougth you dont believed It.
Of course, if any of such dominance constitute a criminal offence, then, apply the law. But this is not masculinity (masculine was the sherrif, the cop, not the killer). It was the Guillette 1992 ad.
Other than that, if a masculine man is and harms nobody, then, Great! He will be excellent worker, a brillisnt leader, great father and a strong spouse. The best a man can be.
So, stop trying to feminise men: It IS worst for them and for society, and bring back masculinity.
But if men are naturally masculine and dominant, how is it that they ceded power so easily?
Lots of people work for their partners for no paycheck. My mom did the accounting for my dad’s business to alleviate costs. That’s still a job, and a stay at home mom is similarly alleviating the cost of paying someone to take care of the kids.
Mothers should discuss the amount with… their parents?? You and your wife’s parents must be loaded man. But this is still you choosing to pay your hypothetical wife, so if you really wanted, you could just not bother and treat her like shit. And she’d have a harder time leaving cause she has less work experience outside of being a stay at home mom. You’re relying on people CHOOSING to be nice to each other to balance power. And when nuclear families were a thing, women couldn’t open bank accounts and you couldn’t get charged with rape if it’s your wife. I’m sure women loved that period of time.
Why don’t YOU start the program to get more men in HR!? Do you know how much more you can get done doing something real than arguing with someone on Substack? Many of these feminist movements started with one person and now we have women in STEM programs, but instead you wanna do nothing and whine about how no one’s addressing the issues that you brought up in the first place.
To the trump thing, no, I don’t think trump should be president because he wants power over others. I’m not gonna claim Harris has no ulterior motives, but this is trump we’re talking about. His whole platform is based on using power to hurt others internationally, send migrant workers to death camps in El Salvador, and tear down rural hospitals to siphon money into the pockets of his Epstein friends. Many people voted for him cause they need a strong daddy figure to dick them down. Personally, I think it’s gay that America needs men so badly, and I don’t think it’s wrong to question why there are so many more men than women in congress.
Yes, empathy as a weakness. That’s part of traditional masculinity or whatever. In what way is trump remotely empathetic? Also, Boy Scout troop leaders molested kids, which is not empathetic.
It’s interesting you bring up 1970 cause that’s when wealth disparity was at its lowest, there were more social programs, and living was more affordable. It’s not the masculinity that made life better, it was just the better living. Even looking at the present, the internet, depression, more stressors, etc., there are so many variables, it’s not just black and white.
And once again, I’m saying that people are happier when they’re free to choose their path. You want to shove those people in a way of life because you think it’ll make them happier.
What’s wrong with women having the power?
What's wrong with men having the power?
If we have helped women in the name of equality with affirmative action, gender quotas and so on, are now we suggesting that we did all that not in the name of equality but just to change power of hands? So feminist has been always a lie and it was not about balancing men and women, but about puting women in power...
We, as men, know already that. And that's the reason why we vote for Trump and far right to subyugate women again. Your question confim that we need to do that. Good luck!
I never said anything was wrong with men having the power. I'm not so easily shaken by the prospect of losing it. It's unfortunate you are so defensive.
Me neither about women having the power.
Read my post, and you will see that my post is not about women in power, but feminism, which is different.
Woming farily reaching the power? 100%. Feminism discriminating men so women reach the power? 0% Against that, the only possible reaction is the most aggresive policy. Including Trump of the very far right.
You said:
"Now women can aspire to be CEO (it seems that men cannot — it's toxic), compete in sport (toxic for men), earn more (toxic again), be the breadwinner (toxic if this is male), be dominant in sex..."
The implication is that there’s something wrong with women being dominant in these arenas. I’m asking why you feel that way. Why does that bother you?
You also said:
"We are angry because you have NOT destroyed masculinity, you have not destroyed power, you have just changed it to the hands of women!!"
The implication here is that there’s something wrong with power shifting from men to women. Again, I’m asking: why do you think that’s a bad thing?
1. I dont bother about women looking for being a CEO. I bother because now about looking for being a CEO is toxic masculinity! Sic! And, furthermore, because the Government has discriminated men (gender quotas) to allow women becoming a CEO.
2. There is of course something wrong with the Government discrimination men in the name of "equality" just to finally end in a inequality situation. Women ha ing power is not a problem: women having power because of the Government having disvriminsted men, including DEI, is.