"But we have not done the same for young men. We're still expecting them to fit into this incredibly narrow stereotype, and I think that has led a lot of young men to have really profound anxiety about who they're supposed to be and how they're supposed to interact with women, particularly post #MeToo,"
100% FALSE NARRATIVE:
1.- The left has been trying to feminise men for decades and that has been TERRIBLE for men.
Now men:
a) Has less education.
b) Earn less than women.
c) Has less sex...
than the toxic males 20 or 30 years ago. Masculine men were doing 100x of time better than the feminise 2025 men!
2.- We want to be toxic masculine. Men want to be MEN. That's the failure. We dont want to sue mens' bags or high hills. This is NOT for men (other than gay men).
3.- Finally, the thing that was TOXIC for men have been promoted for women. Now women can aspire to be CEO (it seems that men cannot - its toxic), compete in sport (toxic for men), earn more (toxic again) be the breadwinner (toxic if this is male), be the dominant in sex...
And you tried to feminise men: that what was BAD for women seems to be good for men. Now men seems not to be the CEO, but the one taking care of the kids?? Why was that bad for women and now is good for men?
We are angry because you have NOT destroyed masculinity, you have not destroyed power, you have just changed it to the hands of women!! And you did it with gender quotas, affirmative action, discrimination agains ment, the worst campaing in all history including KILLING ALL MEN!! WHERE ON EARTH DO YOU EXPECT MEN VOTING FOR DEMOCRATS??
You have not only changed masculinity from men to women, but destroying feminity. And further to all of the above, this is the most isolated and longliness society EVER. WITH THE WORST FERTILITY CRISES EVER.
The left is doom with men. EVER!
Trump is so irritant to the left becuase it is the evidence of the failure of all the above. The rejection by men of their feminisation and the mascuilinsation of women by discrimination of men.
While women have slightly more sex than men, that mainly stems from them having a shit ton of sex from long-term relationships. Women are twice as likely to have had one sexual partner in the past year, while men are twice as likely to have had multiple. So if you wanna get laid a shit ton, just get in a long-term relationship. It's not that complicated.
Not all men want to be put into a box, dawg. Personally, I do a lot of masculine things. I box, watch sports, and code, but I still appreciate the freedom to do whatever I want. My grandpa wasn't allowed to learn piano as a kid cause his mom thought it would turn him gay, and my old coworker's ex-wife used to call him the f-word for listening to David Bowie. And if sowing men's bags is your thing, I don't think people should shame you just because it doesn't fit our false perception of what masculinity used to be, which conveniently leaves out things we respect now, like learning piano and David Bowie.
Over two-thirds of CEOs are men. They still have way more power, yet you act like the role has been completely taken over by women already. I think CEOs in general have more power than they should, but I just don't get why you think men having power over women is synonymous with masculinity. Having power over black people used to be essential to the white identity, and whites made similar notions during the Civil Rights Act that black people were getting more power than white people from a bill that just gave equal rights. Now, nobody gives a fuck. So I don't see how this is much different.
1. Today, Young women make more money than young men in several countries including Spain, France and the UK.
If women continue to have a Payment gender gap is because they care more of kids. So, a personal desition, but men have worse jobs today.
2. Men are more CEOs, but women are 75% of HR Directors, which is more relevant as they determine who is hired. So men are currently facing discrimination from females HR Directors.
Not all men want to be put in a box, but all men want feminist stop critisizing the box. The problem is now we critize the men that are in the box, so the discrimination has reversed. You will not critize a gay polítician, but you critize Trump for having toxic masculinity. Yo see? Feminism has reversed discrimination
And actually, men in the box perform better in life than feminized men. So, we need to accept and encourage the box.
What the hell wha hapenned with your grandpa?? The majority of piano players are male (75%). And music was mostly played by males 100 years ago.
Where on my comment have you see that I said that men have to have power over women?
Critising the current socio econonic and polítical situation of men is geting power over women? If you answer is yes, you also entail that feminism is women taking powe over men.
Which is exactly what is happening right now in all Western society
Being a stay-at-home parent is still a job, just one that doesn't pay. It doesn't change the fact that men make more on average for their work. If you're proposing to give them paychecks for their work to address the pay gap, I would say that's a great idea.
I think our disagreement is that I see power in money, while you see it in the likelihood of getting hired. It sucks that human resource jobs are majority women, which leads to women being more likely to get hired, but isn't the solution to convince men to pursue feminine degrees in human resources and psychology?
I won't criticize politicians for being gay cause they're not harming anyone, but when someone like Andrew Cuomo uses his power to sexually harass women, I'll criticize it. Idk how you define toxic masculinity, but to me, it's when guys associate manliness with having dominance over others, bottling up emotions, or viewing empathy as a weakness.
In what way do men in that box perform "better?" Like, are happier? Live a more fulfilling life?
It's okay to criticize the situation men are in, but if your takeaway from all this is that women have too much power in society and we need to bring back toxic masculinity, a lot of people are going to assume that you think men should have power over women since that's what toxic masculinity basically is.
If we have helped women in the name of equality with affirmative action, gender quotas and so on, are now we suggesting that we did all that not in the name of equality but just to change power of hands? So feminist has been always a lie and it was not about balancing men and women, but about puting women in power...
We, as men, know already that. And that's the reason why we vote for Trump and far right to subyugate women again. Your question confim that we need to do that. Good luck!
I never said anything was wrong with men having the power. I'm not so easily shaken by the prospect of losing it. It's unfortunate you are so defensive.
Read my post, and you will see that my post is not about women in power, but feminism, which is different.
Woming farily reaching the power? 100%. Feminism discriminating men so women reach the power? 0% Against that, the only possible reaction is the most aggresive policy. Including Trump of the very far right.
"But we have not done the same for young men. We're still expecting them to fit into this incredibly narrow stereotype, and I think that has led a lot of young men to have really profound anxiety about who they're supposed to be and how they're supposed to interact with women, particularly post #MeToo,"
100% FALSE NARRATIVE:
1.- The left has been trying to feminise men for decades and that has been TERRIBLE for men.
Now men:
a) Has less education.
b) Earn less than women.
c) Has less sex...
than the toxic males 20 or 30 years ago. Masculine men were doing 100x of time better than the feminise 2025 men!
2.- We want to be toxic masculine. Men want to be MEN. That's the failure. We dont want to sue mens' bags or high hills. This is NOT for men (other than gay men).
3.- Finally, the thing that was TOXIC for men have been promoted for women. Now women can aspire to be CEO (it seems that men cannot - its toxic), compete in sport (toxic for men), earn more (toxic again) be the breadwinner (toxic if this is male), be the dominant in sex...
And you tried to feminise men: that what was BAD for women seems to be good for men. Now men seems not to be the CEO, but the one taking care of the kids?? Why was that bad for women and now is good for men?
We are angry because you have NOT destroyed masculinity, you have not destroyed power, you have just changed it to the hands of women!! And you did it with gender quotas, affirmative action, discrimination agains ment, the worst campaing in all history including KILLING ALL MEN!! WHERE ON EARTH DO YOU EXPECT MEN VOTING FOR DEMOCRATS??
You have not only changed masculinity from men to women, but destroying feminity. And further to all of the above, this is the most isolated and longliness society EVER. WITH THE WORST FERTILITY CRISES EVER.
The left is doom with men. EVER!
Trump is so irritant to the left becuase it is the evidence of the failure of all the above. The rejection by men of their feminisation and the mascuilinsation of women by discrimination of men.
PERIOD.
Aight dawg, let's break this down:
Today, the average woman only makes 85 cents for every dollar the average man makes (https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/03/04/gender-pay-gap-in-us-has-narrowed-slightly-over-2-decades/)
While women have slightly more sex than men, that mainly stems from them having a shit ton of sex from long-term relationships. Women are twice as likely to have had one sexual partner in the past year, while men are twice as likely to have had multiple. So if you wanna get laid a shit ton, just get in a long-term relationship. It's not that complicated.
(Figures 1 and 2 https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7293001/)
Not all men want to be put into a box, dawg. Personally, I do a lot of masculine things. I box, watch sports, and code, but I still appreciate the freedom to do whatever I want. My grandpa wasn't allowed to learn piano as a kid cause his mom thought it would turn him gay, and my old coworker's ex-wife used to call him the f-word for listening to David Bowie. And if sowing men's bags is your thing, I don't think people should shame you just because it doesn't fit our false perception of what masculinity used to be, which conveniently leaves out things we respect now, like learning piano and David Bowie.
Over two-thirds of CEOs are men. They still have way more power, yet you act like the role has been completely taken over by women already. I think CEOs in general have more power than they should, but I just don't get why you think men having power over women is synonymous with masculinity. Having power over black people used to be essential to the white identity, and whites made similar notions during the Civil Rights Act that black people were getting more power than white people from a bill that just gave equal rights. Now, nobody gives a fuck. So I don't see how this is much different.
(https://www.zippia.com/chief-executive-officer-jobs/demographics/)
Aight dawg, let's break this down:
1. Today, Young women make more money than young men in several countries including Spain, France and the UK.
If women continue to have a Payment gender gap is because they care more of kids. So, a personal desition, but men have worse jobs today.
2. Men are more CEOs, but women are 75% of HR Directors, which is more relevant as they determine who is hired. So men are currently facing discrimination from females HR Directors.
Not all men want to be put in a box, but all men want feminist stop critisizing the box. The problem is now we critize the men that are in the box, so the discrimination has reversed. You will not critize a gay polítician, but you critize Trump for having toxic masculinity. Yo see? Feminism has reversed discrimination
And actually, men in the box perform better in life than feminized men. So, we need to accept and encourage the box.
What the hell wha hapenned with your grandpa?? The majority of piano players are male (75%). And music was mostly played by males 100 years ago.
(Continious)
Where on my comment have you see that I said that men have to have power over women?
Critising the current socio econonic and polítical situation of men is geting power over women? If you answer is yes, you also entail that feminism is women taking powe over men.
Which is exactly what is happening right now in all Western society
And this is happening with the help of Olygarchy.
Being a stay-at-home parent is still a job, just one that doesn't pay. It doesn't change the fact that men make more on average for their work. If you're proposing to give them paychecks for their work to address the pay gap, I would say that's a great idea.
I think our disagreement is that I see power in money, while you see it in the likelihood of getting hired. It sucks that human resource jobs are majority women, which leads to women being more likely to get hired, but isn't the solution to convince men to pursue feminine degrees in human resources and psychology?
I won't criticize politicians for being gay cause they're not harming anyone, but when someone like Andrew Cuomo uses his power to sexually harass women, I'll criticize it. Idk how you define toxic masculinity, but to me, it's when guys associate manliness with having dominance over others, bottling up emotions, or viewing empathy as a weakness.
In what way do men in that box perform "better?" Like, are happier? Live a more fulfilling life?
It's okay to criticize the situation men are in, but if your takeaway from all this is that women have too much power in society and we need to bring back toxic masculinity, a lot of people are going to assume that you think men should have power over women since that's what toxic masculinity basically is.
What’s wrong with women having the power?
What's wrong with men having the power?
If we have helped women in the name of equality with affirmative action, gender quotas and so on, are now we suggesting that we did all that not in the name of equality but just to change power of hands? So feminist has been always a lie and it was not about balancing men and women, but about puting women in power...
We, as men, know already that. And that's the reason why we vote for Trump and far right to subyugate women again. Your question confim that we need to do that. Good luck!
I never said anything was wrong with men having the power. I'm not so easily shaken by the prospect of losing it. It's unfortunate you are so defensive.
Me neither about women having the power.
Read my post, and you will see that my post is not about women in power, but feminism, which is different.
Woming farily reaching the power? 100%. Feminism discriminating men so women reach the power? 0% Against that, the only possible reaction is the most aggresive policy. Including Trump of the very far right.